The best thing about the original was the acting and dialogue, Richard Dreyfus, Roy Scheider, and Robert Shaw specifically. Well, take away two legs of that stool and you get Scheider doing his best to unsuccessfully salvage a pathetic film. It was disaster long before the shark jumped out of the water and attacked the helicopter but that scene sealed it.
Aliens to Alien 3. After the miraculous work of making a sequel to one of the greatest of horror films with one of the greatest of action films, we got that piece of garbage. Killing off the wonderful characters of Aliens, Bishop, Hicks and especially Newt, off screen as the film began, throwing away the hard fought victories of the previous film to reset the stage for a lousy prison film.
Wow. I think there are as many bad sequels to choose from as there good sequels to choose from.
Just to name a few obvious: Matrix Revolutions, Spider-Man 3, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, Terminator Genisys, Speed 2... Shannon, I think it's pretty safe to say that Disney just produces lousy sequels!
I'm going with Superman IV: The Quest for Peace. Obviously, someone greenlighted letting a Ninnyhammer and a Flibbertigibbet take charge. Plus, with the 90s around the corner when this was released, there is no excuse for being able to see the stunt wires attached to the actors or having such outdated costumes.
I loathe George Clooney and really thought about submitting Batman and Robin. However, regardless of how one feels about DC Comics, Superman is iconic and IMHO, deserves at least a respective nod for its place in American history. This movie felt like a middle finger to the, "American Way" and in an odd twist, seemed like a playbook for all the mindless trope and liberal claptrap yet to come.
Cars 2. It completely derailed itself, replacing the sweet original setting with an upbeat foreign city, and replacing almost every original lovable character with a lot of obnoxious personalities that had nothing going for them. And to prove that they could've done it well, they made Cars 3 which was actually a really good movie that returned to the themes of the first one that everyone loved. DUMB DUMB DUMB.
Mater confusing wasabi for pistachio ice cream was funny, but not enough to redeem the dumpster fire.
I feel pretty indifferent to most bad sequels. Only because after decades of bad sequels, I just expect them to be bad, but there is ONE bad sequel that actually caused me to feel something akin to grief for a day or two after viewing it and that would be The Matrix Resurrections.
I love the Matrix trilogy. On average we’ve watched it once a year for the past 20 years. Without a doubt the first one is the best. I know some people take issue with the second and some with the third, but I look at all three as the sum of one big awesome franchise... and then comes the long awaited big finale <big sigh> #4 was a typical big studio (WB) contrived churned out piece of trash. It was SO bad, that it’s just too overwhelming to attempt to express all the ways it was an epic failure. I think what makes it all the more disappointing was #4 was a missed opportunity that can never be resurrected (see what I did there? 😏😁)
We will carry on with our annual Matrix trilogy-watching, but Matrix Resurrection is just dead to me. (Yeah, yeah, totally cheesy, but I couldn’t resist😎)
Instead of waiting for the answer, I’ll just say this--
Those living in the matrix can’t see they’re living in the matrix. Only those free’d from the matrix know it actually exists. There is a scene where Neo can choose the red pill and his mind (and body) will be set free or he can remain blissfully ignorant by taking the blue pill.
So, now we have these new cheeky metaphors thanks to the matrix to explain the difference between those who see the truth about the corruption of our world- ie: global marxists, planned pandemics, vaccines that are intended to harm vs. heal, stolen elections, weaponized three letter agencies, protesters being villainized as insurrectionists and unconstitutionally rotting in jail, men competing in woman’s sports and in womens locker rooms, “science” that says we have 52 genders, global warming is real and will kill us all... and so on and so on...the list is long.
So, hence the irony. Only blue pill people were allowed in the movie theater to see newest Matrix in 2021 because they can’t see the matrix and took the vaccine.
uhh haha it's an ongoing joke in my house that I fall asleep everytime a Matrix movie comes on. 😅 so officially I don't think I've finished the 1st one and none of the others. I've seen enough to understand the blue/red pill jokes & that's it. what's this about requiring vaccination to see the movie though? did a theater actually do that??
😁 Gotcha. Yes! Concerts too, depending on the artist or state the venue was in. Bruce Springsteen outraged half his fans by saying concert attendees would have to prove vaccination status before gaining entrance. CA was by far the most egregious with unconstitutional mandates.
It's also funny that there were many delays and changes in Springsteen's most recent tour as band members tested positive for COVID, all of whom had been vaccinated, of course.
ugh. That's why I'm glad I'm away from the states here in AK where that happens less... ish I guess? my husband had to fight that exact thing just to go to work on base. (won, btw.)
Oh my goodness, there are just SO many. Also, apparently there are so many sequals that I didnt know existed! I am torn between The Next Karate Kid and The Hangover II. They're both so bad. The problem with so many sequels is that, instead of continuing the story, it's usually a rehashing of sorts.
The Next Karate Kid was the worst of all of them but I don't mind the overall series and personally, loved that it continued in Cobra Kai. So, I guess because of that, I'll go with The Hangover II. That movie was a great stand-alone movie that should've stayed a stand-alone movie. The worst rehash of all time.
Jaws 2
The best thing about the original was the acting and dialogue, Richard Dreyfus, Roy Scheider, and Robert Shaw specifically. Well, take away two legs of that stool and you get Scheider doing his best to unsuccessfully salvage a pathetic film. It was disaster long before the shark jumped out of the water and attacked the helicopter but that scene sealed it.
Though vulgar language was involved, Brody in the first film saying, "Smile you S.O.B" is so much better than "Open up, say ahhhh" in the second.
Almost everything about Jaws 2 is regrettable. Heck, even Jaws 3 and 4 aren't as bad.
And the winner is... Jaws 2. Good match everyone. See you on Monday.
Aliens to Alien 3. After the miraculous work of making a sequel to one of the greatest of horror films with one of the greatest of action films, we got that piece of garbage. Killing off the wonderful characters of Aliens, Bishop, Hicks and especially Newt, off screen as the film began, throwing away the hard fought victories of the previous film to reset the stage for a lousy prison film.
Wow. I think there are as many bad sequels to choose from as there good sequels to choose from.
Just to name a few obvious: Matrix Revolutions, Spider-Man 3, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, Terminator Genisys, Speed 2... Shannon, I think it's pretty safe to say that Disney just produces lousy sequels!
I'm going with Superman IV: The Quest for Peace. Obviously, someone greenlighted letting a Ninnyhammer and a Flibbertigibbet take charge. Plus, with the 90s around the corner when this was released, there is no excuse for being able to see the stunt wires attached to the actors or having such outdated costumes.
I loathe George Clooney and really thought about submitting Batman and Robin. However, regardless of how one feels about DC Comics, Superman is iconic and IMHO, deserves at least a respective nod for its place in American history. This movie felt like a middle finger to the, "American Way" and in an odd twist, seemed like a playbook for all the mindless trope and liberal claptrap yet to come.
Cars 2. It completely derailed itself, replacing the sweet original setting with an upbeat foreign city, and replacing almost every original lovable character with a lot of obnoxious personalities that had nothing going for them. And to prove that they could've done it well, they made Cars 3 which was actually a really good movie that returned to the themes of the first one that everyone loved. DUMB DUMB DUMB.
Mater confusing wasabi for pistachio ice cream was funny, but not enough to redeem the dumpster fire.
I feel pretty indifferent to most bad sequels. Only because after decades of bad sequels, I just expect them to be bad, but there is ONE bad sequel that actually caused me to feel something akin to grief for a day or two after viewing it and that would be The Matrix Resurrections.
I love the Matrix trilogy. On average we’ve watched it once a year for the past 20 years. Without a doubt the first one is the best. I know some people take issue with the second and some with the third, but I look at all three as the sum of one big awesome franchise... and then comes the long awaited big finale <big sigh> #4 was a typical big studio (WB) contrived churned out piece of trash. It was SO bad, that it’s just too overwhelming to attempt to express all the ways it was an epic failure. I think what makes it all the more disappointing was #4 was a missed opportunity that can never be resurrected (see what I did there? 😏😁)
We will carry on with our annual Matrix trilogy-watching, but Matrix Resurrection is just dead to me. (Yeah, yeah, totally cheesy, but I couldn’t resist😎)
I loved the irony of them releasing it and requiring people to get vaccinated in order to watch it in theaters.
🎯 yes, only the blue-pilled could watch it in theaters. 🤪
Us red-pillers chose freedom and health and watched from the comfort of our couches... with better popcorn too 😄
I feel like I'm missing something here. 😕
Instead of waiting for the answer, I’ll just say this--
Those living in the matrix can’t see they’re living in the matrix. Only those free’d from the matrix know it actually exists. There is a scene where Neo can choose the red pill and his mind (and body) will be set free or he can remain blissfully ignorant by taking the blue pill.
So, now we have these new cheeky metaphors thanks to the matrix to explain the difference between those who see the truth about the corruption of our world- ie: global marxists, planned pandemics, vaccines that are intended to harm vs. heal, stolen elections, weaponized three letter agencies, protesters being villainized as insurrectionists and unconstitutionally rotting in jail, men competing in woman’s sports and in womens locker rooms, “science” that says we have 52 genders, global warming is real and will kill us all... and so on and so on...the list is long.
So, hence the irony. Only blue pill people were allowed in the movie theater to see newest Matrix in 2021 because they can’t see the matrix and took the vaccine.
Whew! That was a mouthful 😅
hahaha said beautifully. 🤣 now I really need to make it a priority to actually finish the movies haha
Have you seen the Matrix movies?
uhh haha it's an ongoing joke in my house that I fall asleep everytime a Matrix movie comes on. 😅 so officially I don't think I've finished the 1st one and none of the others. I've seen enough to understand the blue/red pill jokes & that's it. what's this about requiring vaccination to see the movie though? did a theater actually do that??
The first Matrix film is great and really the only one worth watching.
Gah! Eustace how you wound me! 😁 I will have to politely disagree. I love them all as a whole, but I can see cause for your opinion just the same.
😁 Gotcha. Yes! Concerts too, depending on the artist or state the venue was in. Bruce Springsteen outraged half his fans by saying concert attendees would have to prove vaccination status before gaining entrance. CA was by far the most egregious with unconstitutional mandates.
It's also funny that there were many delays and changes in Springsteen's most recent tour as band members tested positive for COVID, all of whom had been vaccinated, of course.
ugh. That's why I'm glad I'm away from the states here in AK where that happens less... ish I guess? my husband had to fight that exact thing just to go to work on base. (won, btw.)
Does it need to be the next in line or can it be #3 or #4?
I'd say that anything after the 1st counts as a sequel. That's my 2 cents anyway. ;P
I agree
Oh my goodness, there are just SO many. Also, apparently there are so many sequals that I didnt know existed! I am torn between The Next Karate Kid and The Hangover II. They're both so bad. The problem with so many sequels is that, instead of continuing the story, it's usually a rehashing of sorts.
The Next Karate Kid was the worst of all of them but I don't mind the overall series and personally, loved that it continued in Cobra Kai. So, I guess because of that, I'll go with The Hangover II. That movie was a great stand-alone movie that should've stayed a stand-alone movie. The worst rehash of all time.
The Hangover II final answer.